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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Loch Bradan Reservoir, NR Maybole, Carrick North (By IanC2002)

Loch Bradan Reservoir near Maybole, a natural Loch developed into a Reservoir July 18, 1912 to provide water for the town of Troon and surrounding areas.

It is 2-mile-long freshwater loch in South Ayrshire, Scotland, located within the Galloway Forest Park. Situated on the headwaters of the River Girvan, this scenic location is popular for trout fishing, wild camping, kayaking, and hiking. It offers a remote, hilly, and forested landscape known for dark skies, making it suitable for stargazing.

The area marked on the map is just a large tarmacked area off the road, large enough for three cars. The road is single track with passing places and the main access to the reservoir head. Probably not suitable for motorhomes.

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Co-ordinates: 55.24992, -4.508387 • what3words: ///loudness.innocence.represent

St Leonards, Lewes (By grandad1950)

Dating from around 1100 the town centre parish church of St Leonards is a grade 1 listed building in Seaford East Sussex. There are distant views of the coast from the churchyard. There is on street parking around the church

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Co-ordinates: 50.77187, 0.101353 • what3words: ///happier.rural.washroom

Runston Chapel, Monmouthshire (By gasbag43)

Aerial images reveal the evocative ruins of Runston Chapel, the last remnant of a medieval village in Mathern, Monmouthshire.

The chapel, dating from the 12th century, displays Norman architectural features including a robust chancel arch and distinct nave. The surrounding landscape, now dense thickets, masks the village’s disappearance as hidden beneath the turf lie the foundations of the old cottages.

By the mid-16th century, the village had already shrunk significantly. Records suggest only about nine of the original 25 houses were still inhabited. This was likely due to changes in farming practices (such as the shift from labour-intensive crops to sheep farming) and the general migration of people toward larger, more prosperous settlements like nearby Chepstow.

Subtle earthworks around the chapel indicate former building platforms, sunken lanes, and garden crofts. The chapel endured due to its consecrated status, hosting burials until 1770, long after the village was deserted.

I've added as a piece of extra media an AI mock-up of what the church and village would have looked like in its heyday 8 centuries ago

Runston is now a Scheduled Ancient Monument under Cadw

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Co-ordinates: 51.62091, -2.730562 • what3words: ///tickling.century.broadens

Woodroad Viaduct, Cumnock Rural (By JoeC)

The Woodroad Viaduct over the Lugar Water.

The viaduct stands above the town of Cumnock and is used by trains between Kilmarnock and Dumfries. At its peak it stands almost 50m tall and has a length of almost 230m with 14 arches.

There’s an open space at the viaduct where visitors to the Woodroad Park Community Woodland can park which was also good for TOAL.

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Co-ordinates: 55.45856, -4.256709 • what3words: ///erupt.unstated.emblem

Seaford Salts, Lewes (By grandad1950)

Right on the coast at seaford East Sussex is a large recreation ground and rugby club. Good for views along the coast and over the town. Lots of room to fly if there is no rugby match on

First flight with my air 3 S

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Co-ordinates: 50.77333, 0.095323 • what3words: ///bangle.breeding.beads

Newport Cathedral, Newport (By gasbag43)

Sitting up on Stow Hill, Newport Cathedral (also known as the Cathedral Church of St Woolos) is a fascinating patchwork of history. It all started with a simple wooden church, put up in the 5th century by Welsh King Gwynllyw, and the place has kept growing and changing ever since.


While it is the size of a large parish church rather than a typical cathedral, its history and development from the sixth to the twentieth century make it one of the most interesting religious buildings in Wales


As you can see from the photos, the building’s unique linear layout reflects its staggered evolution. The fifteenth-century tower dominates the foreground of the first image; it was reportedly funded by Jasper Tudor and still features his (now headless) statue.


Moving toward the centre of the structure, the St Mary’s Chapel sits on the site of the original Saxon church, serving as a bridge between the tower and the main body.

The elongated Norman nave, clearly visible with its distinct roofline, was constructed in the 12th century and remains one of the finest examples of Romanesque architecture in Wales.

Originally a parish church, it was elevated to cathedral status in 1949. The modern, pale-stoned East End (visible at the far top of the first photo) was added in the 1960s, completing a sacred timeline that spans over 1,500 years.

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Co-ordinates: 51.58304, -2.998593 • what3words: ///grand.home.sheep

Tredegar House, Newport (By gasbag43)

Tredegar House is a major 17th-century mansion in Britain, serving as the ancestral home of the Morgan family (later Lords Tredegar) for over 500 years. The Morgans amassed vast wealth through landownership and their influential role in the South Wales industrial revolution.

Surrounded by restored formal gardens, the estate features the colourful Orchard Garden and intricate parterre, reflecting the family’s desire to showcase their status. The grounds stretch to a 90-acre parkland, once a private estate, now public.

The Morgans’ influence declined in the 20th century, and the National Trust now manages the site, preserving its legacy as a symbol of Welsh aristocracy and architectural ambition.

Key Features in the photos
• The “embroidery” style parterres, designed for viewing from the house, display symmetry and colour.
• The Orangery and Stables were vital for estate life, housing horses and exotic plants.
• The gardens transition to open parkland, reflecting 18th-century landscaping trends.

At their height, the Morgans owned over 40,000 acres, and their proximity to South Wales’ industrial centres drove their shift from farming to coal and iron.

It's a National Trust property, so usual restrictions on TOAL from within the area are in place.

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Co-ordinates: 51.56145, -3.028074 • what3words: ///gave.modest.vets

St Marys Tarring Neville, Lewes (By grandad1950)

St Marys parish church in Tarring Neville East Sussex is a grade 1 listed building dating from the 13th Century. Surrounded by farmland and good views of the south downs. The church is not used very often.

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Co-ordinates: 50.81561, 0.048678 • what3words: ///publisher.croaking.necks

Aldbury Church, St John the Baptist, Dacorum (By 7coloursummer)

Quiet spot just to the side of the near by foot path made for an excellent take off and landing point. Quiet village also meant I wasn't disturbing anyone with this capture.

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Co-ordinates: 51.80256, -0.60399 • what3words: ///cork.sofa.caravans

Old Beaupre Castle, Vale of Glamorgan (By gasbag43)

These aerial photos capture Old Beaupre Castle, located near Cowbridge in the Vale of Glamorgan. Despite its name, what you see isn't actually a military fortress, but a magnificent Elizabethan manor house built upon the foundations of a medieval predecessor.

The images highlight the dramatic contrast between the functional and the decorative. The most significant feature visible is the three-story inner gatehouse, an Italianate Renaissance masterpiece completed in 1600 by Richard Bassett. Notice the intricate carved columns—representing the Doric, Ionic, and Corinthian orders—which stand in stark defiance of the surrounding rugged, roofless ruins.

Key Historical Features
• The Medieval Core: The L-shaped block at the rear dates back to the 14th century.
• Tudor Transformation: The 16th-century expansion turned it into a high-status residence.
• The Outer Gatehouse: Seen in the foreground of the first photo, this 1580 addition signalled the family's immense wealth and social ambition.

The photos emphasise the isolated, rural setting that allowed the Bassetts to display their architectural sophistication. Today, maintained by CADW, the site remains a hauntingly beautiful skeleton of Welsh gentrified life.

Parking is a 10 minute walk away (small lay-by with space for only 2 cars). TOAL point is on the footpath between the parking POI and the castle – flying from the parking side of the castle is fine, but be careful if you overfly the castle or try to shoot it from the other side as you will have strayed into the St Athan FRZ and ATZ which start immediately the other side of the castle

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Co-ordinates: 51.4388, -3.427359 • what3words: ///mountain.skippers.restless


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