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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Moses Gate Country Park, Bolton (By Seadog)

Nice little country park, despite working for many years I'd not visited here before. Plenty of waterfowl, trees (more than you could shake a stick at). Surprisingly "countrified" considering proximity to Bolton twixt Bury & Manchester.

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Co-ordinates: 53.55691, -2.390631 • what3words: ///clubs.games.fork

Teddington Lock, Richmond upon Thames (By grandad1950)

A really interesting place to visit with all the fun of watching people going through the locks. Just south is an interesting set of weirs. Just follow the Thames Path.

Really good coffee at the hut.

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Co-ordinates: 51.43079, -0.321911 • what3words: ///stream.motion.pumps

Masson Mills, Matlock Bath, Derbyshire Dales (By D0c.Col)

Masson Mills is a historic textile mill located in Matlock Bath, Derbyshire. It holds a key place in the history of the Industrial Revolution and the development of the modern factory system.

Richard Arkwright, an English inventor and leading entrepreneur, founded Cromford Mills in 1771 — often cited as the world’s first successful water-powered cotton spinning mill. However, the very success of Cromford led to new challenges — it couldn’t meet the growing demands of Arkwright’s expanding business.

His solution was to build a second, larger mill: Masson Mills, constructed in 1783, just a few miles down the Derwent River. Made from brick and gritstone, Masson Mills was not only bigger but also more technologically advanced than Cromford. It followed the same engineering principles — using water wheels powered by the River Derwent — but benefited from lessons learned, with a more efficient layout and better use of workspace.

Local workers, many living in purpose-built cottages in Matlock Bath and surrounding villages, kept the mill running. Although the setting was more scenic than Cromford, working conditions remained intense. Together, Cromford and Masson marked a turning point in industrial history. They symbolised the birth of the modern factory system and laid the foundations for urban industrial growth, factory towns, and mass production.

Following Arkwright’s death in 1792, the mill passed to his son, Richard Arkwright Jr., who continued to develop the business and expand operations. But by the 1990s, global competition and the shift to overseas manufacturing had taken their toll. Textile production at Masson Mills was no longer economically viable.

Soon after, the site was redeveloped into the Masson Mills Shopping Village and Working Textile Museum. However, a major event was on the horizon. When the COVID-19 pandemic hit, Masson Mills was forced to close in March 2020 during the first national lockdown. A report in October of that year confirmed the closure was permanent, ending 21 years of trading. Since then, the site has evolved and in 2022, the Derwent Hydro group run by the Needle family acquired the mill.

Today, Masson Mills stands as a powerful symbol of Britain’s industrial heritage.
It has entered a new phase focused on conservation, education, and renewable energy. The mill still harnesses the power of the River Derwent through hydroelectric turbines, linking past innovation with sustainable technology.

Now under local private ownership, Masson Mills is being carefully restored and reimagined — with a strong emphasis on heritage preservation and community engagement.
Masson Mills may no longer spin cotton, but it continues to weave together the threads of the Industrial Revolution, British innovation, and a renewed sense of purpose in the 21st century.

At the time of my visit, the shopping centre had ceased trading. The mill, however, still operated as an operational museum, and had a lovely little Cafe at it's entrance from the front of the building.

Free Parking around the mill is pretty difficult to find so I parked on the multi-story carpark attached to the mill. You pay online, or like I did, you can go to the cafe to pay. If you eat at the cafe they give you one hours parking for free (which is all I needed).

The town of Matlock Bath is just around the corner where there is a lot to see and do!

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Co-ordinates: 53.11235, -1.561875 • what3words: ///packets.shifters.operating

Moel Famau, Denbighshire (By AlbionDrones)

Sunshine and Wind, Moel Famau, ClwYdian Range, North Wales...

A hot and sunny day and the not quite a mountain peak of Moel Famau (Bare Mother Mountain) beckoned us for a long walk, a total of 5 miles and 1000ft of ascent in this area of Outstanding Natural Beauty.

Topped by the remains of the Jubilee Tower and stunning views in every direction - with the peaks of Snowdon, Tryfan and Cader Idris, up to 35 miles away, visible in clear weather! Looking in other directions, the Peak District, Liverpool, the Wirral, Ellesmere Port and Beeston and Peckforton Hills are all easily visible.

Adjacent are several Hill Forts, each of which deserves a visit in its own right, but not on this day, after the walk up, we were ready for a long drink, a picnic and a sit down..

There are 2 car parks, the upper one gives a round trip walk of 3 1/2 miles, and 700ft of ascent, the lower one - which has more facillities - gives a longer walk of about 5 1/2 miles and 1000ft of ascent - a word of warning, there are some steep slopes on this route, and the slightly easier route options are much thinner paths that are surrounded by Heather and somewhat difficult to walk upon.

Toilets only in the lower car park, about 1km from the uppoer car park as a walk...

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Co-ordinates: 53.15435, -3.255697 • what3words: ///excavated.stealthier.helm

Newhaven Lighthouse (By Iamcaliban)

Newhaven Lighthouse (built in 1869) is an interesting point of interest, especially for trying out orbits. It is easy to get to by car or public transport from central Edinburgh. It can get busy around there, but when I went early in the morning, it was quite empty. Be careful of seagulls though, as they can get a little aggressive.

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Co-ordinates: 55.98227, -3.196507 • what3words: ///flying.miss.faced

Pooley Bridge, Eden (By kvetner)

Pooley Bridge is the first stainless steel road bridge in the UK. It was opened in September 2020, replacing the stone bridge which had been swept away in floods in 2015.

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Co-ordinates: 54.6122, -2.822164 • what3words: ///orchids.punters.breached

Prosperous Lead Mine, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, Harrogate (By markas)

Prosperous represents a comprehensive late 18th and 19th century lead mining and processing complex and was one of a number of mines in the area exploiting the rich geology of Upper Nidderdale. The extensive remains of the spoil heaps and the upstanding walls of the smelt mill provide a tangible link to an industry that was so influential in this part of Upper Nidderdale. The remains are nationally important, and are designated as a Scheduled Monument.

Records for the mine go back to the 18th century and chart the attempts to make a profit from lead-mining over the course of 100 years.

You can park at Coldstone Cut car park and then cross the road and follow the public footpath, it is a bit of a trek and steep in places, I cycled there and wouldn’t recommend that method of transport.

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Co-ordinates: 54.09055, -1.819214 • what3words: ///mainly.signal.indicate

Thatcher Rock, Torbay (By chrismartindevon)

A great view of Thatcher Rock, and Ilsham behind it. TOAL from the top of the road (currently closed form Torquay side) but plenty of space to fly and good landing spots.

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Co-ordinates: 50.45515, -3.48935 • what3words: ///woods.fairly.yours

Start Point Lighthouse, South Hams (By chrismartindevon)

Great location for a dramatic lighthouse shot.

Wind can be very strong and gusty here, and when taking off can be a sudden pickup when the drone gets above the rock level.

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Co-ordinates: 50.22242, -3.642193 • what3words: ///insects.typified.pelting

Cullernose Point and Alnwick Cove, Northumberland (By Iamcaliban)

A nice, quiet little carpark offering great views of Cullernose Point to the North and Alnwick Cove to the South.

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Co-ordinates: 55.44881, -1.587524 • what3words: ///flitting.tripods.flame


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