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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Bealach na Ba, Ross and Cromarty South West (By AlbionDrones)

The iconic Bealach na Ba, 'Pass of the Cattle' on the NC500, Applecross, WesterRoss, Scotland.

The road over the historic mountain pass was built in 1822 and is engineered similarly to roads through the great mountain passes in the Alps, with very tight hairpin bends that switch back and forth up the hillside and gradients that approach 20%. It has the greatest ascent of any road climb in the United Kingdom, rising from sea level at Applecross to 630 m (2,070 ft) in about 6 km (3.7 mi), and is the third highest mountain pass in Scotland.

A feature of the NC500 and mobbed during summer months we planned our recent NC500 trip to ensure we were able to take in this wonderful place for the first time - the last section of the NC500 we had left to do.

The drive is steep and twisting, and can be extremely busy, but in late October we only saw a handful of cars, and were fortunate that the weather was perfect, views that stretched for miles and late afternoon light with some drama in the skies.

There is a decent car park at the top, with plenty of space, amazing views over to Skye, Arochar, Rum and Eigg (when the weather plays ball), and the road has recently been resurfaced. As to difficulty, in a modern car it is not too bad, in a camper van it would be challenging. I would rate it not quite as difficult as Hardknott Pass in the Lake District, but not far behind...

No facilities at the car park, but plenty in Applecross and Lochcarron

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Co-ordinates: 57.41174, -5.701411 • what3words: ///gymnasium.wonderful.elders

Queens Park, Stoke-on-Trent (By Mark.G)

Longton Park, officially named Queen's Park, was established in 1887 on 45 acres donated by the Duke of Sutherland to commemorate Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee. It was designed by the Duke's land agent, John H. Garrett, and was the first public park in the Potteries, officially opening in 1888. The park's design from the 1880s remains largely unchanged, making it a good example of a late Victorian municipal park.
The park is a family park with a large play area, tennis courts and open grassland, also a band stand, central cafe and 2 lakes with lots of wildlife.

TOAL in the middle of the large grassed area. The park is not overly busy but use your judgement to determine if the area is 'too' busy for flying.

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Co-ordinates: 52.97704, -2.142253 • what3words: ///shin.lined.bids

St Nicolas, Arun (By grandad1950)

St Nicolas parish church is a grade 1 listed building dating from the 11th century in the West Sussex village of Poling. The church is surrounded by countryside and some well marked footpaths

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Co-ordinates: 50.8314, -0.514501 • what3words: ///prove.arts.wide

St John The Devine, Arun (By grandad1950)

The grade 1 listed St John the Devine parish church in Patching West Sussex dates from 1282. Fine countryside around the church to fly.

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Co-ordinates: 50.84861, -0.456975 • what3words: ///investors.plodded.begin

Oakwell Hall, Kirklees (By skysnapper13)

Oakwell Hall is an Elizabethan manor house in Birstall, West Yorkshire, England. The Grade I listed hall is set in period gardens surrounded by 110 acres of country park. The house was built for John Batte. A recarved stone dated 1583 probably indicates the date of construction. Plenty of open space to fly but there are some power line within the vicinity. Plenty of take off and landing points to choose from with ample parking near the house and in the wooded and open areas.

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Co-ordinates: 53.73768, -1.679356 • what3words: ///really.drives.guises

Charlies Lake, Test Valley (By paulrd)

Welcome to Charlie’s Lake, a beautifully maintained, naturally spring-fed fishery tucked away in the heart of Andover, Hampshire. This tranquil venue offers crystal-clear waters, stunning scenery, and an abundance of fish species — making it a true gem for anglers of all levels.

In this video, I take you on a peaceful walk around the lake, capturing its calm atmosphere, wildlife, and the pristine water that makes Charlie’s Lake so special. Whether you’re here for a quiet day of coarse fishing or just to enjoy the natural surroundings, this spot never disappoints.

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Co-ordinates: 51.21948, -1.494092 • what3words: ///riverboat.baroness.shampoos

Jubilee Mount in Chobham Common, Surrey Heath (By Reggy1974)

Pretty close to Fairoaks airport FRZ as well as inside SSSI, but according to all the maps it is OK to fly there outside of nesting season and with usual common sense. Jubilee mount car park is conveniently nearby, but a muddy path goes through thorny bushes - good boots and long trousers compulsory.
I was there on a lovely, sunny Saturday in November and there were few dog walkers around and kids - might get little busier in the Spring or a Summer.
Little clearing I have TOAL from, but there is a lot of space in general.

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Co-ordinates: 51.3691, -0.605479 • what3words: ///hers.oldest.music

St Mary The Virgin, Arun (By grandad1950)

Dating from the 12th century St Mary the Virgin church in Clapham West Sussex is a grade 1 listed building well worth exploring. The church is surrounded by open countryside and well marked walks

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Co-ordinates: 50.84892, -0.444561 • what3words: ///topical.bikes.nerd

St John The Baptist, Arun (By grandad1950)

St Johns the Baptist church in the Sussex village of Findon is a grade 1 listed building dating from the 11th century. An interesting graveyard and good views over the surrounding countryside

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Co-ordinates: 50.86496, -0.414871 • what3words: ///worms.drummers.guests

Battery Point Light, North Somerset (By Rustyo200le)

A small but interesting lighthouse situated in Portishead, North Somerset.

Ample free parking on the sea front.

The 9-metre-high (30 ft) lighthouse was built as an unwatched automatic light by the Chance Brothers of Smethwick at Battery Point in 1931. It consists of a black metal pyramid on a concrete base.

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Co-ordinates: 51.49458, -2.773597 • what3words: ///handbook.capillary.offshore


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