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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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St John The Baptist, Arun (By grandad1950)

St Johns the Baptist church in the Sussex village of Findon is a grade 1 listed building dating from the 11th century. An interesting graveyard and good views over the surrounding countryside

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Co-ordinates: 50.86496, -0.414871 • what3words: ///worms.drummers.guests

Battery Point Light, North Somerset (By Rustyo200le)

A small but interesting lighthouse situated in Portishead, North Somerset.

Ample free parking on the sea front.

The 9-metre-high (30 ft) lighthouse was built as an unwatched automatic light by the Chance Brothers of Smethwick at Battery Point in 1931. It consists of a black metal pyramid on a concrete base.

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Co-ordinates: 51.49458, -2.773597 • what3words: ///handbook.capillary.offshore

Broughton Lees, Ashford (By grandad1950)

A charming Kent village with a large village green that doubles as a cricket pitch in the summer.
Lots of room to fly

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Co-ordinates: 51.18836, 0.891985 • what3words: ///bluff.tastier.spilling

St Andrews Castle, St Andrews Central (By kvetner)

Some nice coastal scenery, the castle, and you can also fly and view some of the historic buildings of St Andrews University from here.

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Co-ordinates: 56.34202, -2.790208 • what3words: ///samples.storage.endlessly

Hollingbourne Cicket Club, Maidstone (By grandad1950)

On the edge of the interesting village of Hollingbourne in Kent the cricket ground is completely surrounded by agricultural fields.

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Co-ordinates: 51.2682, 0.646229 • what3words: ///mows.dumpy.swift

Bredger village pond, Swale (By grandad1950)

A small village pond in the middle of the delightful kent village of Bredger

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Co-ordinates: 51.3119, 0.696261 • what3words: ///says.patching.boating

Peckforton Castle, Crewe and Nantwich (By D0c.Col)

Peckforton Castle – The Last English Fortress

Rising from the misty hills of Cheshire, England, Peckforton Castle looks like it was built for knights and kings — yet it’s barely 175 years old.

This was built for John Tollemache, the Victorian landowner who dreamed of living like a medieval lord. Discover how this extraordinary red-sandstone fortress became a symbol of power, pride, and imagination — complete with real battlements, a portcullis, and a moat.

🏰 Built between 1844 and 1850, Peckforton cost around £60,000 — equivalent to £8–10 million today. From its creation to its wartime role, its brush with fire, and its rebirth as a luxury hotel, this is the story of England’s last true castle.

It was quiet when I visited, but as a popular wedding venue, I would choose my flight carefully. Surrounded by an SSSi you should be okay staying close to the castle.

I TOAL from the free carpark. The hotel does catering but I didn't try it out. Chester is only 20 mins away and the place is easily accessible.

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Co-ordinates: 53.11768, -2.698348 • what3words: ///undertone.darkest.tripped

Shankend Viaduct, Denholm and Hermitage (By Trainman)

Impressive viaduct that was on the long closed Waverley route from Carlisle to Edinburgh.
Accessed along a narrow track off tue B6399 and great views can be enjoyed .

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Co-ordinates: 55.3455, -2.756324 • what3words: ///universes.starting.miles

Angmering Park Estate, Arun (By paulrd)

Angmering Park Estate is a historic, privately owned estate in West Sussex, near Arundel, known for its woodland, public footpaths, and views. It's a popular area for walking, cycling, and mountain biking, featuring both ancient woods and open fields. The estate has been part of the Duke of Norfolk's Arundel Estate for centuries and offers scenic trails that showcase its history and natural beauty.

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Co-ordinates: 50.85762, -0.467289 • what3words: ///everybody.symphonic.discusses

St Andrew-by-the-Ford, Arun (By paulrd)

St Andrew-by-the-Ford is a tiny church of Saxon origin, at the end of a small gravel path, close to the bank of the River Arun and surrounded by a copse of trees. The church originally served a small community which was abandoned in 1608.

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Co-ordinates: 50.82413, -0.577974 • what3words: ///buzz.exit.kick


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