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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Blair Atholl Castle, Blair Atholl, Strathardle and Glenshee (By AlbionDrones)

The stunning Blair Atholl Castle in deepest Perthshire on an atmospheric autumn day.

Visible from the A9 between the trees, the castle itself can be seen from the B8079 in Blair Atholl, and a handy layby affords a useful TOAL spot on the edge of the grounds.

Limited options to maintain VLOS kept me this side of the castle, hence only a short video...

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Co-ordinates: 56.77229, -3.859248 • what3words: ///waltz.presides.codes

Kessock Road Turning Circle, Inverness Merkinch (By Herrach)

This is a great spot for sunrise and sunset flights. You may also see dolphins or the occasional whale that comes in to the firth. There are parking spots at the turning circle and I sit at one of the picnic tables and take off from there.

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Co-ordinates: 57.49484, -4.245744 • what3words: ///funny.horn.vanish

Shustoke Resivoir, North Warwickshire (By Russ3001)

There is a car park that only takes coins, £1 all day, there is a small cut through the trees into the field it's tight in winter, I've flown here for a few years never had any problems, outside BHX no flight zone.

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Co-ordinates: 52.51844, -1.674995 • what3words: ///removable.dined.wiggling

Loch Cluanie and Arrochar Alps, Lochalsh (By AlbionDrones)

Bonny mountainside, Burn cascading into Loch Cluanie, with interesting weather.

Lay by provides a decent parking spot, and you can get some great views of the Loch and the Mountains.

Be aware it is within EGR610, so permission to fly needs to be obtained from the RAF Low Fly Team before flying - ask a few days in advance, and they will give permission and add your flight(s) to their deconfliction system.

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Co-ordinates: 57.156, -5.130819 • what3words: ///angel.corrosive.dupe

St Marys, Arun (By grandad1950)

Dating from the 11th Century St Marys the Virgin Parish church in Burpham West Sussex is a grade 1 listed building.

It has a very interesting graveyard and is mainly surrounded by countryside,

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Co-ordinates: 50.8709, -0.524353 • what3words: ///climate.digested.guesswork

Loch Glascarnoch, Ross and Cromarty Central (By Herrach)

A great place to fly where there are no obstacles. Goo for beginners. It is an enhancdd warning site because rescue helicopters or military jets can be in the area. I just accept this and never have i seen one. It is also great for VLOS due to unobsructed views. The area is one of outstanding mountain views wit possible great reflections on the loch. The hieht of the water can drop really low revealing an old road you can fly along. There are multiple pull overs for a vehicle. It is a must go place for me. It is also a great location to see an aurora.

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Co-ordinates: 57.71769, -4.86989 • what3words: ///crowd.popped.chum

Sommerset Park home of Ayr Utd., Lochside, Braehead and Whitletts (By Mundito)

Home of Ayr United.
Always better to phone the club before flying.
they are normally very accommodating to drone flyers.
But be careful as the Pik no fly zone starts very close to back of the north stand.

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Co-ordinates: 55.46911, -4.620352 • what3words: ///repair.edge.lodge

St Andrews Ferring, Arun (By grandad1950)

St Andrews Parish Church in the West Sussex village of Ferring is a grade 1 listed building dating from around 865. It is one of the oldest churches in West Sussex

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Co-ordinates: 50.81244, -0.448047 • what3words: ///wizard.burst.depend

Ayton Castle, Scarborough (By MickeyMoo)

Ayton Castle, located near the village of West Ayton in North Yorkshire, England, is a striking example of a medieval fortified manor house. Built in the late 14th century, likely by Ralph Eure, the castle was constructed primarily for defense during a period of frequent border conflicts. Though now a ruin, its remaining stone tower and fragments of curtain walls still convey a sense of its former strength and importance. Set on a rise overlooking the River Derwent, Ayton Castle played a strategic role in the region’s history, especially during the turbulent Wars of the Roses. Today, it stands as a Scheduled Ancient Monument, offering visitors a glimpse into the architectural and military history of medieval North Yorkshire.

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Co-ordinates: 54.252, -0.485607 • what3words: ///grumbles.pretty.monorail

Steall Waterfall, Glen Nevis, Fort William South (By AlbionDrones)

The second day of our NC500 trip, after spending the first night in Fort William, an extra to our planned trip, a drive into Glen Nevis and a walk up to Steall Falls, the UK's 2nd largest waterfall.

The day was much improved over the torrential rain of the previous day, and with a long drive ahead and plenty of places planned to stop, we set off early - after a great breakfast at the Cruachan Hotel - to see the falls.

Arriving early, we had the place almost to ourselves. The drive along a twisty single-track road is not for the faint of heart, but upon arrival at the small car park, we saw only one other vehicle. The walk to the Falls is not an easy one, lots of steps, waterfalls and streams to cross and some treacherous terrain. Walking poles came in handy, good boots are essential, and a good level of balance and mobility would be recommended.

However, the reward of reaching the almost alpine valley and seeing the Falls is definitely worthwhile. I wish we had allowed ourselves more time to walk and explore - it would have been great to fly the valley up to the falls with the AVATA2, skimming over the rocks to reveal the distant falls, but time was not with us, so we decided not to fly the AVATA this time - rest assured, we will return!

Lots of areas to fly from in the valley atop the walk, however the falls can also be seen after about a 10 minute walk form the car park - in the distance at a range of about a mile or so.

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Co-ordinates: 56.77014, -4.979821 • what3words: ///clocks.grumbling.perused


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