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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Duke's Wood oilfield, Newark and Sherwood (By bryand)

There is very little left of England's first onshore oilfield, near Eakring in Nottinghamshire. Its production peaked in 1944, when the crude was sent to Castol in Wakefield to make lubricants.
There are several derelict 'Nodding Donkey' pumps in the woods. Probably best to look for them in winter, when you can see through the foliage.
The SSSI is almost entirely flora-related, so won't mind being overflown.

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Co-ordinates: 53.13455, -0.988442 • what3words: ///diplomat.eternally.dated

St John The Baptist parish church, Chichester (By grandad1950)

The Parish church of St John the Baptist in the village of Kidford, West Sussex.

The oldest parts date from the 12th century and it is a Grade 1 listed building.

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Co-ordinates: 51.02863, -0.548823 • what3words: ///tangling.glider.liberty

Shakespeare's Avon, Stratford-on-Avon (By TheLittleRedJen)

Birthplace and resting place of England's greatest playwright, Stratford upon Avon needs no introduction. Alongside the tranquil River Avon there are many features of interest, from Holy Trinity Church, where Shakespeare lies buried, to the Royal Shakespeare Theatre, and the Tramway and Clopton Bridges, there is plenty of interest for the aerial photographer.

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Co-ordinates: 52.18839, -1.70526 • what3words: ///scope.chained.fell

Hurlestone Point, Somerset West and Taunton (By TheLittleRedJen)

The stature of the Exmoor hills is frequently hidden from inland, but from the coast their full height is apparent. Here, on the western side of the Exmoor coast, lies Hurlestone Point, with its abandoned coastguard lookout. To the east, there is the shingle ridge of Bossington Beach, with Porlock Weir (and its fine pub) at its far end. The area is NT land, but TOAL is possible from the beach.

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Co-ordinates: 51.23129, -3.577285 • what3words: ///flame.milkman.strictest

Culmstock Beacon, Mid Devon (By TheLittleRedJen)

On the south west side of the plateau is the last remaining Elizabethan beacon hut in the country, which would have been used to signal the approach of the Spanish Armada. There are extensive views too, from Exmoor to Dartmoor.

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Co-ordinates: 50.92815, -3.267722 • what3words: ///wolf.earlobe.depth

Preston Tower, Northumberland (By SJPhotography)

Preston Pele Tower was constructed between 1392 and 1399 during a time of ongoing conflict between England and Scotland. In the early 15th century, the tower was one of 78 similar structures located in Northumberland. Over the years, it was owned by various individuals, including Sir Guishcard Harbottle, who died in battle against James IV during the Battle of Flodden in 1513; an event that paved the way for Mary, Queen of Scots’ ascension to the Scottish throne.

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Co-ordinates: 55.52229, -1.710541 • what3words: ///thighs.removing.army

St Cuthberts Cave, Northumberland (By SJPhotography)

St Cuthbert's Cave, known locally as Cuddy's Cave or Cove, can refer to one of two natural sandstone caves in Northumberland, England, that have been traditionally associated with Saint Cuthbert, the 7th-century Anglo-Saxon monk, bishop and hermit.

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Co-ordinates: 55.6104, -1.907415 • what3words: ///rental.people.paler

Dunstanburgh Castle, Northumberland (By SJPhotography)

Dunstanburgh Castle is a 14th-century fortification on the coast of Northumberland in northern England, between the villages of Craster and Embleton.

The castle was built by Thomas, 2nd Earl of Lancaster between 1313 and 1322, taking advantage of the site's natural defences and the existing earthworks of an Iron Age fort.

Thomas was a leader of a baronial faction opposed to King Edward II, and probably intended Dunstanburgh to act as a secure refuge, should the political situation in southern England deteriorate. The castle also served as a statement of the Earl's wealth and influence and would have invited comparisons with the neighbouring royal castle of Bamburgh. Thomas probably only visited his new castle once, before being captured at the Battle of Boroughbridge in 1322 as he attempted to flee royal forces for the safety of Dunstanburgh. Thomas was executed, and the castle became the property of the Crown before passing into the Duchy of Lancaster.

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Co-ordinates: 55.49031, -1.594419 • what3words: ///frames.ballpoint.daisy

St Mary Magdalene Church, Arun (By grandad1950)

St Mary Magdalene parish church in Lyminster, West Sussex is a Grade 1 listed building dating from the late 10th century.

It has a very large graveyard to explore and it feels like it is located in a farmyard.

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Co-ordinates: 50.83349, -0.54889 • what3words: ///reprints.alive.bluffs

River Ouse Newhaven, Lewes (By grandad1950)

The port of Newhaven sits on the River Ouse on the south coast of Sussex. Lots of commercial traffic including the Newhaven Dieppe ferry.

TOAL from the Fort Road Rec gives good views of the port, river, town and the South Downs

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Co-ordinates: 50.78701, 0.054642 • what3words: ///huts.fabric.lifeboats


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