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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Ditchling Recreation Ground, Lewes (By grandad1950)

A wide open space for flying on the edge of the South Downs village of Ditchling. Good views of the downs and the village is well worth exploring.

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Northumberlandia, Northumberland (By Keltoi)

Northumberlandia (the "Lady of the North") is a huge land art sculpture in the shape of a reclining female figure, which was completed in 2012, near Cramlington, Northumberland, northern England. It is in the care of Northumberland Wildlife Trust.


Northumberlandia under construction in August 2011

The head pictured from below showing lips, nostrils, eyes and forehead
Made of 1.5 million tonnes of overburden from the neighbouring Shotton Surface Mine, it is 34 metres (112 feet) high and 400 metres (1,300 feet) long, set in a 19 hectares (47 acres) public park. Its creators claim that it is the largest land sculpture in female form in the world.

When constructed, it was intended to be a major tourist attraction, with the developers hoping that it would attract an additional 200,000 visitors a year to Northumberland.[3] It was officially opened by Anne, Princess Royal on 29 August 2012.[4] A day-long Community Opening Event on 20 October 2012 marked the park becoming fully open to the public.
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Cadbury Camp hillfort, North Somerset (By gasbag43)

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As you can see in the photograph, the site stands out for its impressive multiple rings of earth banks and ditches. The image clearly highlights the double circuit of ramparts and ditches that follow the natural contours of the hill. These earthworks weren't just for show; they provided a significant tactical advantage, offering 360-degree views across the Yeo Valley and toward the Bristol Channel.

The site is of historical significance, with excavations uncovering Roman coins and pottery, suggesting the site remained significant even after the Roman conquest. Much further along its timeline, during World War II the camp’s strategic elevation was utilised when it housed a searchlight battery to protect Bristol from aerial raids.

Today, it is managed by the National Trust, preserved as a haven for limestone grassland wildflowers and rare butterflies.

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Also visible from this location are the Somerset Levels - the vast, flat expanse of greenery stretching out beyond the hill is the "Vale of Avalon," which was a shallow sea during the Iron Age.

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On exceptionally clear days, the long ridge of the Quantocks can be seen as a dark line on the distant western horizon.

This image captures the site’s impressive preservation. The low-angled morning light emphasizes the concentric earthworks, revealing the depth of the ditches that once served as formidable barriers. It also illustrates how the fort utilises the natural plateau, with the steep southern slope providing a natural defence.

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Restricted opening times ( check online) but good walks in the area

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Ashford Designer Outlet, Ashford (By Jonty44)

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