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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Shamley Green, Waverley (By grandad1950)

Views across the two large greens in the centre of the charming Sussex village of Shamley Green complete with village pond and a cricket club.

Lots of room to fly but not a lot of parking space

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Co-ordinates: 51.18398, -0.524184 • what3words: ///repelled.left.respond

Side Pike & Lingmoor Fell, South Lakeland (By DavrosTG)

Fantastic views easily accessible from multiple locations straight off the road.

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Co-ordinates: 54.43731, -3.099599 • what3words: ///overdrive.farms.paddle

Clawson Hill oilfield, Melton (By bryand)

Another part of the Nottinghamshire oilfield, but unlike Eakring, this time with working Nodding Donkeys.
Parking close by, but probably prudent to ask the farmer if anyone is around to ask.

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Co-ordinates: 52.82104, -0.922398 • what3words: ///diplomats.flops.tracks

The Oasis Leisure Centre, Swindon (By Rustyo200le)

The now abandoned Oasis Leisure Centre in the heart of Swindon.

There has been many attempts and draft plans submitted to bring this once thriving leisure centre back to life but unfortunately nothing as of yet seems to get started.

We parked in the entrance to the old car park which is now gated off and took off in the car park. We did get confronted by security who politely asked us not to fly over the building but had no issues with us flying otherwise.

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Co-ordinates: 51.56744, -1.790128 • what3words: ///ties.agents.bunny

St Quintins Castle, Vale of Glamorgan (By gasbag43)

Llanblethian Castle, also known as St Quentin's or St. Quintin's Castle, was likely built by Gilbert de Clare in the early 14th century. Its key remains include a twin-towered gatehouse and a northern curtain wall. At its centre is an earthen mound with remnants of what may have been an earlier keep.


The site features ruins such as a rectangular keep stump, a semi-octagonal tower at the southeast corner, traces of a similar southwest tower, and an ivy-covered gatehouse flanked by polygonal towers.


Features include cross-shaped arrow loops, a spiral stairway leading to now-ruined rooms, and parts of the bailey walls, though much of these walls have collapsed or are buried.

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Co-ordinates: 51.45748, -3.456552 • what3words: ///richly.decks.cabbages

Candleston Castle, Bridgend (By gasbag43)

Candleston Castle is a 14th-century fortified manor house, in ruins since the 19th century.

It comprises a D-shaped courtyard about 30m across with a very ruined wall 1.1m thick rising 2m to the wall walk from the inside but rather more above the ground outside, plus a two storey hall block and tower on the east side

Candleston's original long and narrow rectangular structure lay across the western end of a low narrow promontory, suggesting a defensive position.

The castle is believed to be named after the Norman family of Cantilupe, thought to be its first feudal tenants.

As you can see from my photos, its pretty overgrown, but beautifully located in a heavily wooded area with lovely views to be had of the surrounding area from the air

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Co-ordinates: 51.48285, -3.626754 • what3words: ///meanders.exams.unscathed

Newton Beach, Bridgend (By gasbag43)

Newton is the most easterly beach at Porthcawl and is a ten minute walk from the picturesque village of Newton (several nice pubs!).

It is a long sand and rock beach backed by the very extensive and scientifically interesting Newton Burrows and Merthyr Mawr sand dunes. It is popular with windsurfers, jet skiers and power boat users so best to time any flight away from peak periods

There is a pay car park, but off season, I’ve always found it possible to park on the road no more than 100 metres from the beach

To the top right of the image in the distance you can see Dunraven, Monknash and Nash Point along the coast – all great drone locations

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Co-ordinates: 51.47914, -3.662567 • what3words: ///sweetly.inefficient.secondly

St Wolfram ovingdean, Brighton and Hove (By grandad1950)

While walking on the South Downs I found this church in Ovingdean East Sussex by chance. St Wulfram parish church dates from around 1100 and is a grade 1 listed building. I spotted it because a farmer had blocked the road so he could move is cows form one field to another and I went to see what was going on. Church right next to the farm.

Note I was walking and not driving so parking marker is just a guess

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Co-ordinates: 50.8157, -0.077372 • what3words: ///brisk.delivers.purifier

Wheatsheaf Pub, Coombe Hay., Bath and North East Somerset (By notnowcato)

A really lovely and interesting area with some remanants of the Coal Canal visible in the video.

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Co-ordinates: 51.33911, -2.379892 • what3words: ///wishes.wiring.prom

St John the Evangelist, Chichester (By grandad1950)

The 12th century St Johns The Evangelist parish church is a grade 1 listed building sitting on the banks of the river Adur in West Sussex. Not a lot of parking places but an interesting church and good views of the river

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Co-ordinates: 50.90821, -0.55555 • what3words: ///undertook.abundance.superbly


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