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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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St Peter's Church Wintringham, Ryedale (By skysnapper13)

St Peter's Church is a redundant Anglican church in the village of Wintringham, North Yorkshire, England. It is recorded in the National Heritage List for England as a designated Grade I listed building, and is under the care of the Churches Conservation Trust. The architectural historian Nikolaus Pevsner described the building as "the most rewarding church in the East Riding with an exceptional collection of furnishings".

There is no mention of the church in the Domesday Book, but the chancel is Norman in style. The chancel dates from the 12th century, while much of the rest of the church dates from the 14th century. The east end of the church was rebuilt, and windows were added to the nave, in the 15th century. The tower, dating originally from the late 14th century, was repaired in 1818. The roofs were restored in 1887 by Oldrid Scott, and oak fittings were added to the chancel by Temple Moore in 1889–91. It was vested with the Churches Conservation Trust in April 2004. The Trust arranged for repairs, which were started in the following year and took two years to complete.

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Co-ordinates: 54.14682, -0.643176 • what3words: ///watch.stance.joystick

St Gregory's Minster, Ryedale (By skysnapper13)

St Gregory's Minster is an Anglo-Saxon church with a rare sundial, in Kirkdale near Kirkbymoorside, Vale of Pickering, North Yorkshire, England. It is a Grade I listed building.

The minster was built c. 1060 on the site of an earlier church, and is dedicated to St Gregory, who was pope from 590 to 604. Major modifications were completed in the 15th century and in the 1800s. The church was restored during 1907–1909. The building is similar in style and age to that of St Hilda's Church, Ellerburn.

The church is open during the day; volunteer stewards provide information to visitors and services are offered weekly. The maintenance of the fabric of the building is helped by financial contributions from The Friends of St Gregory's Minster. The Friends' Annual General Meeting is followed by the Kirkdale Lecture about the parish and its environs.

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Co-ordinates: 54.26316, -0.962285 • what3words: ///stowing.digestion.noise

Enclosure Rites, Ryedale (By skysnapper13)

“Enclosure Rights” was produced by an artist called Jony Easterby, who is famous for his works empathy for the natural world and a sense of place within culture and social context. Drawing on the archaeological importance of the area, the sculpture consists of a new chalk path, edged with split oak posts leading up to a raised platform over-looking a dew pond. Jony Easterby worked with archaeologists to research the cultural landscape of the area and develop an artwork inspired by the ancient history. The sculpture actually sits next to an ancient ditch and dyke earthwork, so Jony drew upon bronze age barrow forms to create the shape. There are also a number of wooden carved oak figures known as “The Guardian Warriors”, based on a number of tiny carved chalk warriors found in the nearby Derwent Valley. It was believed the figures were based on members of the local iron age tribe who habited the area at the time of the Roman invasion known as the Paresi.

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Co-ordinates: 54.15688, -0.63763 • what3words: ///stages.cowboys.crunching

St Peters Rodmell, Lewes (By grandad1950)

Nestled in the South Downs St Peters Parish church dates from the 12th century in Rodmell in East Sussex. A grade 1 listed building.
If you like walking close to the river Ouse and the South Downs Way

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Co-ordinates: 50.83846, 0.017825 • what3words: ///turns.animates.speeding

Sudbrook hill fort, Monmouthshire (By gasbag43)

Positioned on a sandstone cliff overlooking the Severn Estuary, Sudbrook Camp is a coastal "promontory" fort that served as a vital Iron Age port and defensive hub. Its location was strategic, controlling the shortest crossing point between South Wales and the English coast—a precursor to the modern Prince of Wales Bridge seen in the panoramic photograph.

In the other images, the scale of the curving earthworks is striking. These triple-banked defences protected the landward side, while the sea provided a natural barrier.

The shots clearly illustrate the fort's greatest threat – coastal erosion. Over centuries, the Severn has reclaimed the southern half of the settlement; you can see the ramparts now terminating abruptly at the cliff edge.

The photos capture a "clash of eras." The Iron Age banks sit adjacent to the ruins of a 12th-century Norman chapel (see bottom right hand edge of 2nd photo) and the massive industrial infrastructure of the Severn Tunnel pumping station, highlighting Sudbrook's 2,000-year role as a gateway to Wales.

Archaeological digs have discovered evidence of a "takeover." While the fort was built and occupied by the Silures from roughly 100 BC, a layer of Roman pottery and coins dating to the AD 50s and 60s was unearthed on the 1930’s. This suggests the Roman military likely seized the fort to secure the Severn crossing during their brutal campaign against the Silurian tribes. Excavators found Roman coins ranging from the early conquest era into the later 2nd century. This indicates that even after its military importance faded, Sudbrook likely remained a thriving trading post or "beach-head" for goods moving across the estuary.

Traces of glass and metal manufacturing were discovered within the interior (the area that is now a football pitch in the photos). This suggests the community wasn't just farming; they were skilled artisans engaging in maritime trade.

I've added an AI mock-up of the site as it would have looked in tis heyday

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Co-ordinates: 51.58259, -2.715292 • what3words: ///jeep.landowner.topmost

Llanmelin Wood Hillfort, Monmouthshire (By gasbag43)

Locate on a limestone spur in Monmouthshire, Llanmelin Wood Hillfort is one of the most significant Iron Age sites in South Wales.

These photos capture the fort’s "multivallate" design—a series of massive earthwork banks and ditches that once defended the Silures, a powerful British tribe known for their fierce resistance against the Roman conquest.

Constructed around the 4th century BC, the site consists of a main elliptical enclosure and a distinctive "annexe" to the southeast, clearly visible in the images as the lower terraced area extending into the treeline.

Archaeologists believe Llanmelin may have served as the precursor to the nearby Roman town of Venta Silurum (Caerwent).

The images highlight the steepness of the natural slope, augmented by human hands to create an imposing vertical barrier. The secondary enclosures are also visible. These likely housed livestock or served as social spaces, indicating a sophisticated, permanent community rather than a temporary refuge.

The peculiar “L shaped: layout where the annexe joins the main camp suggests the fort evolved over centuries, growing in complexity alongside the tribe’s influence.

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Co-ordinates: 51.62941, -2.779898 • what3words: ///touches.irritable.albums

St laurence, Lewes (By grandad1950)

One of the oldest churches in Sussex dating from 998 is St Laurence parish church in the south downs hamlet of Telscombe. A grade 1 listed building.

Close by are great views of the rolling downs and the Mid Sussex motocross centre.

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Co-ordinates: 50.81276, -0.006385 • what3words: ///shuts.spouting.plank

Coed y Bwnydd hill fort, Monmouthshire (By gasbag43)

Perched on a prominent ridge overlooking the Usk Valley in Monmouthshire, Coed y Bwnydd is the finest preserved Iron Age hillfort in the region. Dating back over 2,000 years, this strategic stronghold served as a fortified settlement for a local community, likely the Silures tribe, providing both defensive security and a powerful statement of tribal status.

The photos highlight the fort's enduring architecture. The circular ramparts and deep ditches are clearly visible beneath the canopy of ancient oaks and beech trees. These earthworks would have once been topped with formidable wooden palisades.

The panoramic shots capture its commanding "clout"—the site offers 360-degree views, crucial for monitoring movement along the valley floor.

Unlike some neighbouring sites that show heavy Roman re-use, Coed y Bwnydd appears to have remained a predominantly native stronghold. Its proximity to the Roman legionary fort at Usk suggests it was part of a tense landscape during the Roman conquest of Wales in the 1st century AD.

Archaeological finds include remains of at least four timber roundhouses, phased ramparts added in response to growing threats, a previously hidden northeast entrance, and radiocarbon dating of finds harking back to the mid-4th century BC.

Today, managed by the National Trust, the site is a peaceful blend of archaeology and ecology.

Parking is in a small layby by the entrance to the site with space for 2-3 cars, TOAL by a gate to one of the local fields 100 metres further up the road just past the NT property boundary

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Co-ordinates: 51.75629, -2.920132 • what3words: ///villa.unwraps.lonely

Haden Hill House and Museum, Sandwell (By D0c.Col)

High above modern Cradley Heath stands Haden Hill House — a striking red-brick reminder of the ambition and industry that shaped the Black Country in the late 19th century.

Built in 1878 for industrialist George Alfred Haden Best, Haden Hill House reflects the prosperity generated by ironworks, chain making, nail production and the heavy industries that defined the region during the Industrial Revolution. At a time when furnaces burned day and night and chimneys filled the skyline, homes like this stood as symbols of achievement and permanence.

The House is set in its own Parkland and is easily acessible with well defined paths for all ages and abilities. The House and Museum is not always open so best check Sandwell Councils website for open times.

Entrance to the site is off Barrs Road and onto Lee Rd. You can park on the house car park at the back of the house or on the park carpark straight ahead at the top of Lee Road. There is accessible parking to the rear of the house - turn left at the top of Lee Rd.

The Parkland is a suburban oasis so plenty of places to eat etc close by.

I TOAL right in front of the building from one of the pathways, but plenty of places to choose from, and never saw any park officials etc while I was there; but the house itself was closed so probably lass people about than normal.

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Co-ordinates: 52.46787, -2.062305 • what3words: ///zooms.chief.laptop

Loch Bradan Reservoir, NR Maybole, Carrick North (By IanC2002)

Loch Bradan Reservoir near Maybole, a natural Loch developed into a Reservoir July 18, 1912 to provide water for the town of Troon and surrounding areas.

It is 2-mile-long freshwater loch in South Ayrshire, Scotland, located within the Galloway Forest Park. Situated on the headwaters of the River Girvan, this scenic location is popular for trout fishing, wild camping, kayaking, and hiking. It offers a remote, hilly, and forested landscape known for dark skies, making it suitable for stargazing.

The area marked on the map is just a large tarmacked area off the road, large enough for three cars. The road is single track with passing places and the main access to the reservoir head. Probably not suitable for motorhomes.

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Co-ordinates: 55.24992, -4.508387 • what3words: ///loudness.innocence.represent


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