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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Billingford Mill, South Norfolk (By Kevin_Fairgrieve)

Parking is very limited at the mill but the nearby pub has plenty.. The mill is generally not open, so pick your day and go.

This windmill was built to replace a post mill that was blown over and destroyed in 1859. The new mill was run using wind power between 1860 and 1956. It was the last commercial windmill in Norfolk. It continued to work using an engine until 1959.

The mill has five storeys, a Norfolk boat-shaped cap, four patent sails and a six-bladed fantail which ensures the cap always faces into the wind. Most of the original machinery is intact, including two sets of stones, the great spur wheel, sack hoist, tentering gear and governors.

It was the first mill to be acquired by Norfolk County Council for preservation by Norfolk Windmills Trust in 1965. It is a Grade II* listed building. The mill was restored by the Suffolk Millwright, Tim Whiting and his team, between 2017 and 2021.

The mill stands on Billingford Common, a County Wildlife Site. Tours of the mill are available on open days and by appointment.

A fantastic and unique place steeped in history. So much of our heritage is sadly being left to just rot away.

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Co-ordinates: 52.36233, 1.181156 • what3words: ///slowly.betrayal.emulated

Monk Bretton Priory, Barnsley (By bryand)

Monk Bretton Priory is an English Heritage site which has been excavated to show one of the most detailed floor plans of any such building. Access is straightforward with parking nearby and TAOL from a public lane alongside the site.

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Co-ordinates: 53.55419, -1.438403 • what3words: ///form.reach.lower

Bolton-upon-Dearne AA battery site, Barnsley (By bryand)

The site a 4-gun anti-aircraft battery from WW2 has survived in a field at Bolton-upon-Dearne, South Yorkshire. Most of the site is intact, and easily accessible, as it is next to Dearne Valley Wetlands SSSI.
Parking in a layby at the end of Lowfield Road.

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Co-ordinates: 53.5161, -1.302746 • what3words: ///model.objective.sailor

Dunraven Bay, Vale of Glamorgan (By Victoria_Graholska)

Dunraven Bay (Southerndown Beach), is a scenic beach in South Wales featuring a sandy shore, rich fossil-hunting rock pools, and historic walled gardens.

It's a beautiful place to spend entire day there walking, enjoying the views, have a picnic and for any water activities.

Flying drone is a sheer joy as it reveals breathtaking views of the cliffs, which were formed in the various historic times and are so unique.

Walled gardens add a special character to the place.

There is a parking for which you will be asked to pay £5 in cash, ample parking further up the hills, toilets and accessible toilets were open and well maintained.

Snack Shop was closed so can't comment on that. It's about 20 minute walk towards Ogmore Beach where you will find nice place to eat called West Farm Southerndown Coastal Retreat.

Thoroughly enjoyed this location!

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Co-ordinates: 51.44734, -3.60876 • what3words: ///habits.detail.charmingly

Home park, Plymouth (By grandad1950)

Home of Plymouth Argyle , the team I followed as a kid growing up in Plymouth.

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Co-ordinates: 50.38817, -4.151287 • what3words: ///worry.create.wing

St Marys Shipley, Horsham (By grandad1950)

A 12th century parish church in the West Sussex village of Shipley is a grade 1 listed building. Just a few minutes away is Shipley windmill.

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Co-ordinates: 50.98426, -0.370062 • what3words: ///humid.copes.gobbling

Cromer Pier (By akey_uk)

Jewel of the North Norfolk Coast

Park in the main town and take a short walk to the pier and down onto the beach for TOAL. lots of space on a quiet day, and some beautiful views of the coast, pier and town.

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Co-ordinates: 52.93382, 1.301494 • what3words: ///oxidation.meanest.plugs

Loch Maree Viewpoint, Poolewe, Ross and Cromarty South West (By AlbionDrones)

Stunning views over Loch Maree from just outside Poolewe.

It is inside the RAF Low Flying area, so please do get permission or fly outsdide of operational hours.

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Co-ordinates: 57.74982, -5.596287 • what3words: ///conquests.rift.wording

St George's West Grinstead, Horsham (By grandad1950)

The ancient St Georges parish church in West Grinstead in West Sussex
dates from the 11th century and is a grade 1 listed building

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Co-ordinates: 50.9735, -0.333511 • what3words: ///defensive.hopping.yelled

Ogmore-by-Sea, Vale of Glamorgan (By Victoria_Graholska)

Beautiful spot for flying and after a long research to make sure it's safe and legal I have decided to give it a go. There is so much more to see in this location including walking all the way up to the Ogmore Castle - and we went there before just without a drone and in another direction you will find a Dunraven Bay with a castle (or a footprint of the castle) I'm not too sure as we didn't get past the parking gate due to only cash accepted.
Parking is available and the earlier you arrive the better

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Co-ordinates: 51.46029, -3.636329 • what3words: ///ulterior.ozone.third


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