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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Toots long barrow, Stroud (By gasbag43)

Dominating the skyline above the Stroud Valley, The Toots on Selsley Common is a magnificent Neolithic long barrow dating back to approximately 3500–4000 BC.

Measuring roughly 64m in length, this "Cotswold-Severn" type tomb served as a communal burial chamber for early farming communities. It predates the Iron Age hillforts I’ve been documenting recently by over two millennia, marking a time when the first settled Britons used monumental architecture to claim ancestral territory.

The photographs showcase the classic "wedge" shape of the barrow. The eastern end is noticeably higher and wider, where the original dry-stone entrance and forecourt would have been located for ritual gatherings.

The wide-angle shots highlight why this specific spot was chosen. Long barrows were often placed on false crests—appearing to sit directly on the horizon when viewed from the valley below—linking the world of the living with the elevated realm of the dead.

The close-up drone shots reveal the undulating surface of the mound. While it remains one of the largest in Gloucestershire, the depressions in the centre are the result of unrecorded "treasure hunting" or early antiquarian digs in the 18th and 19th centuries.

Aside from the long barrow itself, the other visible earthworks on the common are the remains of limestone quarrying. Stone from this area was historically used for local dry stone walls and major projects like the nearby Woodchester Manor

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Co-ordinates: 51.7263, -2.25175 • what3words: ///hippy.enchanted.encounter

Caplar Camp hillfort, Herefordshire (By gasbag43)

Crowning a steep-sided ridge above a dramatic bend in the River Wye, Capler Camp is one of Herefordshire’s most imposing Iron Age hillforts. Occupied from roughly the 4th century BC, this large, bi-vallate (double-ramparted) stronghold served as a vital territorial marker and defensive retreat for local tribes, likely the Dobunni, overseeing the fertile Wye Valley below.

The wide-angle aerials capture the fort's long, narrow footprint. The builders used the natural topography well, letting the sheer southern cliffs do most of the defensive work.

In the top-down perspective the double banks and ditches on the northern side remain well-defined. Even under the canopy of trees, the "V-shaped" profile of the ditches is still visible, showing the massive amount of earth shifted by prehistoric hands.

Regarding the context of the river bend, the panoramas highlight the fort's primary purpose: visibility. From this elevation, the tribe could monitor miles of the River Wye, a major Iron Age transport route. The contrast between the dark, wooded ramparts and the lush, green river meadows below creates a powerful sense of the ancient "frontier" that Capler once guarded.

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Co-ordinates: 51.99331, -2.593741 • what3words: ///racked.leafing.windmills

Blessed Virgin Mary church, Singleton, Chichester (By grandad1950)

Dating from the 11th century the parish church of the Blessed Virgin Mary in the West Sussex village of Singleton is a grade 1 listed building.

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Co-ordinates: 50.91005, -0.752574 • what3words: ///ozone.intricate.shakes

Woodchester Mansion, Stroud (By gasbag43)

Nestled in a secluded Cotswold valley, Woodchester Mansion has been described as the world's most famous "unfinished" house.

Commissioned in 1857, it was designed in the fervent Gothic Revival style. However, in 1873, work abruptly stopped. Legend suggests the masons simply dropped their tools and walked away, leaving a limestone shell that is functionally a time capsule of Victorian construction techniques.

The wide-angle aerial shots capture the mansion's haunting isolation. The intricate roofline, with its sharp gables and soaring chimneys, illustrates the architect’s vision of a "medieval" palace. Because the house lacks internal floors in many areas, the light passes through the structure in a way the architect never intended, highlighting its skeletal beauty.

The panoramas emphasize the mansion's "hidden" nature. The architect purposefully chose the valley floor—the site of an earlier Georgian house—to create a private, monastic retreat. This damp, secluded microclimate has preserved the building but also contributed to the eerie atmosphere that fuels its reputation as a haunted site. This reputation is enhanced by the colony of approximately 200 greater horseshoe bats who live within the attic of the mansion, and have been studied continuously since the mid-1950s

Today, Woodchester is a unique architectural laboratory, offering a rare "X-ray" view into how a grand Victorian house was actually built, from the massive stone drainage systems to the delicate hand-carved details.

Parking is in the National Trust Woodchester Park (Buckholt) car park, but the Mansion is not a NT property, nor is the land it stands on part of the NT estate

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Co-ordinates: 51.71081, -2.277539 • what3words: ///quoted.spouting.swimsuits

Woodchester Park, Stroud (By gasbag43)

Woodchester Park is widely considered a masterpiece of 18th and 19th-century landscape design. Originally a deer park for the Ducie family, it was transformed into a secluded, romantic valley estate.

The park features a chain of five man-made lakes, tiered throughout the valley to create a sense of infinite water and tranquil isolation.

The wide-angle shots capture the serpentine lakes. Notice how they follow the natural curve of the valley floor; this was a hallmark of "picturesque" design, intended to make man-made features appear as if they were sculpted by nature.

The solitary stone boathouse stands as a silent witness to the park’s heyday. Built in the late 19th century, its architecture mirrors the Gothic style of the nearby mansion, serving both a functional and ornamental purpose for the Leigh family’s private recreation.

You can see how the dense, steep-sided woodland hems in the park. This topography creates a unique, damp microclimate that has allowed ancient beech and oak trees to thrive, but it also famously kept the estate hidden from the prying eyes of the Victorian public.

Today, managed by the National Trust, the park is an ecological haven. The contrast between the formal, structured lakes and the encroaching wild woodland provides a vivid visual record of a landscape that was once a private playground and is now a sanctuary for rare wildlife.

TOAL is from outside the NT boundary with a bit of a walk in from 2 possible parking locations – one is in a church car park that is sometimes locked, the other a lay-by on the busy A46 that’s another 0.5 mile walk

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Co-ordinates: 51.71083, -2.268091 • what3words: ///comic.prowling.symphonic

St Peters Racton, Chichester (By grandad1950)

Nestled on the south Downs village of Racton is the tiny grade 1 listed parish church of St Peters dating from the 11th century

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Co-ordinates: 50.87717, -0.892779 • what3words: ///shadow.voter.prefect

Somers Obelisk, Herefordshire (By gasbag43)

Standing as a striking landmark upon the Eastnor Estate in Herefordshire, the Somers Obelisk was erected in 1812.

It was commissioned by Charles Cocks, 1st Earl Somers, as a dual tribute: a memorial to his eldest son, Major Edward Charles Cocks, who tragically fell at the Siege of Burgos during the Peninsular War, and a monument to several other distinguished ancestors, including the renowned Lord Chancellor Somers.

The wide-angle shot showcases the obelisk’s role as a "focal point" of the landscape. It was designed to be seen from Eastnor Castle, anchoring the vista between the Malvern Hills and the undulating Herefordshire countryside. In the shot it is framed against the backdrop of Midsummer Hill, linking 19th-century commemorative architecture with the Iron Age landscape.

The close-up shot highlights the stark, elegant geometry of the stone structure. Notice how its shadow stretches across the ridge; in the 19th century, such monuments were intentionally placed to utilize the changing light of the day to draw the eye.

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Co-ordinates: 52.03833, -2.36252 • what3words: ///rinse.collapsed.elbowed

Midsummer Hill Camp, Herefordshire (By gasbag43)

Midsummer Hill, an iconic hillfort in the Malvern Hills Area Of Natural Beauty, is steeped in over 2,500 years of history. Initially constructed during the Early Iron Age (c. 6th century BC), it evolved into a powerful, multi-ringed fortress, acting as a regional hub for tribal society. It is considered one of the most complex and unique Iron Age hillforts in Herefordshire, in that it spans over two hilltops; Midsummer Hill and Hollybush Hill

The photographs capture the scale of these multiple parallel ramparts which wrap dramatically around the contours of the hills. These defences showcase sophisticated Iron Age engineering and a formidable statement of power that is still clearly legible.

The images vividly illustrate why this position was chosen. The site controls the highest point, offering panoramic, 360-degree views (visible in wide-angle) over the surrounding ancient, agricultural landscape towards distant peaks.

This elevation and visibility made it a crucial strategic vantage point for defensive monitoring, commanding both the hills and the plain. Modern walking paths trace these ancient defences, blending centuries of human history with the rugged natural beauty of the Herefordshire landscape.

There's a free car park at the base of the hill. TOAL was from a small clearing near the summit alongside the footpath

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Co-ordinates: 52.03452, -2.349667 • what3words: ///beauty.argued.verifying

Skipsea Castle, East Riding of Yorkshire (By CutThroatJake)

Skipsea Castle was a Norman motte and bailey castle near the village of Skipsea, East Riding of Yorkshire, England. Built around 1086.
The site is void of all structures but the various mounds, and other earthwork fortifications remain.
The site is owned by English Heritage but is unmanned.
English Heritage forbid! TOAL from their sites so this was done from the roadside, where parking is limited but the traffic levels were light.

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Co-ordinates: 53.97865, -0.229597 • what3words: ///reshaping.vanished.added

St Peters, Chichester (By grandad1950)

A small south downs parish church dating from the 12th century in the tiny village of East Marden West Sussex. A grade 1 listed building

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Co-ordinates: 50.92551, -0.852523 • what3words: ///plodding.encodes.solids


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