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Queen Elizabeth Country Park added to Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty in South East by AeroJ on 11/08/2024

The South Downs contains a good few spectacular locations along its length, and Butser gets a lot of attention for being among the tallest and most open of them.

But the neighbouring peak of Butser is a slightly lower, almost entirely tree-covered hill where we find QECP, Petersfield's main big out-of-town country park, which deserves a pin on the map because it will occur to many to try and fly here, but we should be aware of the challenges in advance...

Parking is expensive if you bring the car, but bikes (and EUCs) get in free if you are up to the 400 ft climb to the top of the hill with another mile or 2 to go to the fly site once you get there ! Toilets and cafe facilities open within normal park sort of hours (also expensive !). The Park does not have any 'no drones' signs (as of Aug 2024), and I believe it's fine as long as you don't hang around the busy picnic and pizza oven areas at peak times. These border the closest TOAL field right next to the car park and make that one the least preferable of the 3 or 4 available - the others don't generally have stationary groups of people in them !

There ARE spectacular views available here, just not as many as you'd think ! It is MAINLY about the trees and sheer amount of them ! And it's quite a challenging place to fly for number of reasons I will briefly mention below.

All 3 of the potential fly sites are right at the top of the hill and are variously sized fields that adjoin the main gravel track running all the way along the main ridge from the upper car park to Wardown, which is the highest point of and end of the hill. The best place to fly from is undoubtedly the largest field, furthest from the car park (about 1.5km walk), and just before the hill drops off into the Wardown viewpoint (which is almost entirely obscured from view by trees from the ground). THIS is the view we want though and is a stunning vista back towards the town, in which we have imposing Butser on the left, the chalk quarry and town in front, and the A3 carving between the 2 hills, and vast, lush tree canopy in the foreground. This looks AMAZING in Autumn.

But the Achilles heel, so to speak, of this site is the fact that each of these TOAL fields are surrounded by tall trees, seriously limiting the amount of horizontal travel we have, even at some height without losing VLOS. The ONE exception is if you get your UV to follow the main track all the way along the hill ridge, which will give a long continuous shot with clear views of craft all the way along if you follow it on foot and lovely wooded drop-offs on both sides once you get about 100 ft above the tree-line.

We do get some RAF traffic appearing low over those trees on occasions, so good to notify them of any flights you may be intending to make here in advance. We also have to watch out for excess wind, which may seem calm at ground level, but can become suddenly huge as soon as you emerge from the canopy, where you are subject to a powerful prevailing wind that gets channelled along the A3 between the 2 hills. Although updrafts from this do get diffused by the woodland to some extent, some skim above it and can catch you, making descent a bit sketchy if you try it in the wrong places or need it in a hurry, so this is actually quite a challenging place to fly because you don't have much chance to see things coming and winds are unpredictable and powerful ! My advice is 'don't run low on power here - land well early'. The main risk is being blown out of VLOS for craft that can't handle big wind. I will only fly my M4P here on the very calmest of days.

A valid question to ask might be why you would fly here, when there is even bigger hill Butser right next door, which is a relatively easy-fly, vastly wide open space, with amazing all-round visibility wherever you fly on it, and I would have to agree !

QECP is for specialists, who want tree-lined ridges in certain lights, (and ones tall enough to poke through clouds occasionally) and who want to actually fly IN the woods where there are helpfully widely spaced and nicely managed trees and a number of interesting things to film including assault courses, bike trails, epic drop-offs and several crafty type play areas with rope swings and bridges and what-not. Looks great in golden hour. FPVers would have a ball in the woods if the light was right...

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Co-ordinates: 50.97363, -0.967226 • what3words: ///logs.marching.relations

The originator declared that this location was not inside a Flight Restriction Zone at the time of being flown on 10/08/2024. It remains the responsibility of any pilot to check for any changes before flying at the same location. Landowner permission may be required before taking off.

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Gardenstown is one of a series of villages along the north coast of Aberdeenshire, all characterised by a spectacular and precipitous drive down to the shoreline, and picturesque homes along the seafront.

I used the signed free car park to the east of the harbour. If you choose to park at the west end of the seafront, the roadway is often very narrow and has an unshielded steep drop to the seaward edge. It's especially hard to reverse along safely if you meet a vehicle coming the way, so I'd recommend not going that way.

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Co-ordinates: 57.67225, -2.338658 • what3words: ///everyone.huddling.deflate

Pennan, New Pitsligo (By kvetner)

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There was a "no drone zone" sign on the village hall, so I flew from a neighbouring beach to be discreet. But be warned: it's a really tricky and dangerous scramble across fallen rocks to get there.

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Co-ordinates: 57.67888, -2.260431 • what3words: ///crunching.written.decisive

Crovie (By kvetner)

Crovie is one of a series of villages along the north coast of Aberdeenshire, all characterised by a spectacular and precipitous drive down to the shoreline, and picturesque homes along the seafront.

There is limited parking on the seafront itself, but as there's not much space, the residents prefer visitors to use one of the two car parks on the approach road.

I flew from a bench next to the coastal park which heads west towards Gardenstown.

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Co-ordinates: 57.67911, -2.324332 • what3words: ///adjuster.shelving.swelling

Eynsford viaduct, Sevenoaks (By Venners07)

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Co-ordinates: 51.36851, 0.202743 • what3words: ///farmer.clay.waddle

Footdee, Aberdeen, Hanover South (By kvetner)

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Despite the number of tourists traipsing through, it's a residential neighbourhood, so I suggest fly with respect to privacy.

It's probably a good spot to catch big boats entering or leaving the harbour, although it was fairly quiet when I visited.

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Co-ordinates: 57.14292, -2.071025 • what3words: ///loves.charmingly.patch

St Mary & St Gabriel, Chichester (By grandad1950)

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Co-ordinates: 50.96878, -0.884461 • what3words: ///unhelpful.paramedic.plunger

Middlesbrough Transporter Bridge, Middlesbrough (By Keltoi)

Built around 1911 this bridge was used to transport vehicles, people and goods across the Tees.
Now no longer in use

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Daymer Bay, Cornwall (By CMDR-CHEVRON)

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Co-ordinates: 50.55999, -4.925968 • what3words: ///branch.strays.recitals

St Botolphs Hardham, Horsham (By grandad1950)

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Co-ordinates: 50.94854, -0.522783 • what3words: ///reservoir.relieves.spends

Lindisfarne Castle, Holy Island, Northumberland (By mancub77)

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The whole of the East Coast here has a NOTAMS with a floor of 20,000 feet still checked with MOD no issue think they were surprised.

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Co-ordinates: 55.66907, -1.784828 • what3words: ///deprives.wagers.cools


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